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Please Don't Call Me “Aunty”


SHOBHA THAROOR SRINIVASAN, Jan 06, 2010

When you meet an adult woman, who is perhaps your mother’s age, what do you call her? Mrs.? Ms.? If she is between 10 and 20 years older than you, do you address her by her first name or last name? Or, do you pause to ask how she would like to be addressed?

If you’re an Indian American, you’ll probably just call her “aunty.” “Aunty” and “Uncle” have become easy fallbacks when addressing people including distant associates, neighbors, acquaintances, and even total strangers who are older than oneself. I’ve watched the attractive shopkeeper in our neighborhood Indian store cringe and straighten her kurti when a jean-clad matron has the gall to address her as “aunty.” And I identify with her indignant irritation completely. As an adult woman who has also been called “aunty” one too many times by too many adults who I barely know, I have a bone to pick with what I believe has become a hapless naming practice.

According to Probal Dasgupta’s study The Otherness of English: India’s Auntie Tongue Syndrome, the term aunty “functions these days as a marker of Western sophistication among the upwardly mobile middle classes in urban and semi-urban India.” Many of the Indians who reside in the Bay Area are products of this urban, elite heritage, and they seem determined to use “aunty” liberally and pass on the custom to their unsuspecting offspring.

Today, the title “aunty” is so overused and misused that it has lost its position and meaning. Indian-American children are taught that every adult female is a potential aunty; many carry this presumption to the conclusion that any adult female older than them can be an aunty. I’m not referring to school children here, but to those I see as adults, the lipsticked and bearded variety, who ought to know better. Don’t get me wrong. I don’t have a problem with terms like ammayi, or cheriamma, or edathi, all specific Malayalam words that acknowledge individuals who are close family members and deserve rightful respect in the family’s pecking order. There are equivalent terms in every Indian language: terms like maami, mausi, and didi that all validate close family connections. But amongst English-speaking Indian Americans, the frequent use of “aunty” or “uncle” is more often an example of lazy speech, or a desire to bump the individual in question into the category of doddering older-other, than it is a thoughtful moniker of respect. Therein lies the problem.


I attended an art exhibition in the home of an Indian-American couple a few months back. The woman who answered the door to show me and my companion around said she was the homeowner. She was of an indeterminable age, but definitely an adult—and I don’t mean only in a legal sense! The gathering was of mixed age, ethnicity, and gender. Wine flowed and hors d’oeuvres were nibbled. It was a cosmopolitan scene. We were all adults in a neutral setting, and yet when it was time to leave, the hostess said to me, “Thanks for coming, aunty!” I bristled. How dare this woman call me aunty? Was this the result of her vanity? Was my anger an indication of mine? Her use of the term “aunty” with a perfect stranger was both deliberate and careless. This was not about respect. There was no regard for long-term association or affection. This was clearly an example of “you’re from an older, other world, and I’m still young, and I want to put some distance between us.”

Here are some guidelines for the use of the term “aunty” and to prevent against the kind of encounter I’ve just described.

If I have not known you when you were a child, and been a part of your life as you learnt and grew—I am not your aunty.

If you are an adult with or without furrows on your temples, and our paths have never crossed before—I am not your aunty.

If your children are younger than mine, or you are the same age as my grown children, but I am meeting you for the first time—I am not your aunty.

And if you’re just not sure what to call someone? Ask; don’t assume.

I’m not the only one who feels this way. I’ve seen what happens when friends’ parents visit from India, all articulate, successful, professional individuals in their own right, most still working adults, some retired perhaps, who nevertheless are made to feel like tag-alongs in the United States. Many of these parents insist that they prefer to be “left at home” when asked to accompany their offspring to local dinner functions and are pushed to the “aunty/uncle” section of the room. What happened to Indian grace, hospitality, and our cultural reverence for the wisdom and experience of age?

In the India of my childhood, aunties were privileged and exceptional members of the family. If they were not the sisters of your father or mother, or the wives of your uncles, they were close family friends who had known you since infancy and had a stake or significant interest in your well being. In a culture in which godmothers were unfamiliar, the aunty, like the “aunt” elephant in a matriarchal herd of elephants, took on that distinctive, responsible role and helped our mother defend and protect her calf.

Children have always needed aunties: women who were caring and courageous enough to share in the act of mothering. And aunties have always been part of every child’s “village,” whether in India or the United States. In fact a bestselling tribute to the institution of aunty-dom, The Complete Book of Aunts by Rupert Christiansen, was published in the U.K. in 2006 and states that of all our blood relations, an aunt offers the most potential for an uncomplicated friendship. As the author writes, there’s no reason to “let the aunt slide unremembered into the dust box of history.” Acknowledging significant family members is important, and I agree that we should celebrate those figures who mean something to us. But “mean something” is the operative phrase.

Think of all the older desi ladies you call “aunty.” Do you reserve use of the term for those with whom you have a significant relationship?

Let us not diminish the value of extended family, or reduce the importance of commitment and involvement, by loose interpretations and titles drawn by vanity. It’s time to redefine words like “aunty” and “uncle” in our vocabularies and restore their use to a rightful position. It’s time to honor those friends and family who truly have a hand in shaping our lives.

This article was published in the February 2009 issue of the magazine.



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Shobha Tharoor Srinivasan is Director of Development at SVILC, Santa Clara County’s Independent Living Center, a full time mother, and a voice-over artist in her spare time.

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Jay Jan 15, 2010 20:36:06
Much ado about nothing? Also, no good solutions to the "imaginary and over-dramatized" problems have been defined by the author. Quite natural, I suppose, since there are no genuine problems, at all!

Kalpana Handu Jan 15, 2010 15:16:19
Shobha...Agree with you entirely. But it is amusing to read the comments being generated by your writings.Terms like "Indian culture" and "respect" are being thrown around. And predictably the discussion has degenerated into West versus East gibberish. People.....just ask the other person how they want to be addressed period

Radhika Jan 10, 2010 13:17:43
How about "sir" or "ma'am"? If it's on the street or just a random person I don't know, I use those terms. In a social situation, I introduce myself. It's simple. I am equally uncomfortable using "aunty" and "uncle" with men and women I don't know.

Carl Chan Jan 06, 2010 15:10:54
I think this is a common practice in Asia. In traditional China, a younger person would address an older woman as "aunty" as sign of respect even though they are not related.

Chandrasekaran Gurumoorthy Feb 17, 2009 16:05:12
Dear Mrs. Srinivasan's writing may receive approval from many who may not be basically liking to be bracketed in the 'elder' category. I would say this is purely some sort of ego on the part of people who always want to project that they are young (ever!!!?) Let me tell one thing; these terms were put to use in those days because an aunty means she is considred a sister to the father and an uncle means brother to mother. Both these positions among the relatives were considered very important culturally and by addressing elders in this fashion, they simply elevate them to a very repectable position. This probably was the simple philosophy and I simply do not understand why we should take offense!!!!

Antara Brahma Feb 12, 2009 08:03:14
I agree partially with the guidelines presented here.
As a teenager, the knee-jerk response to anyone you met who is married and has kids is to call them aunty. Now that I am nearing 30, I realize that some of these 'aunties' are actually the same age as my cousins, and I feel really foolish referring to them as such. But, the relationship has been established, and it's too late to go back and make the change.
Now, when I meet Indian adults who are elder to me, I immediately append a 'ji' to their name -- unless they are the parents of my friends. Though the guidelines say not to, I must disagree with Shobha aunty here, because there is a certain respect being attached with the term 'aunty/uncle' in this case -- as you are extending your kinship with your friend to their family.
Anyway, perhaps I will feel otherwise after I've been called Aunty a million times myself!

Smrithi Feb 09, 2009 10:31:05
Hi Shobha,

Sorry to be disrespectful but you asked for it. I\'ll have to agree with Paritosh & Vishal & even Manisha. What are the alternatives? The question is what would you liked to be called? Do you want to be called \"Babes\"? Ask your kids & they would prefer, in front of them atleast, they want their friends(if they are Indian) to call you aunty - even if they are meeting you for the first time. Its wild if ppl who are 5 yrs younger to you call you aunty & they need to be slapped but if the age diff is 20 then aunty should be just fine. Aging is hard on everyone- I understad your frustration.

Paankhi Feb 08, 2009 23:11:04
Dear Shobha,
We have had several discussions this week amongst our circle of friends regarding the usage of aunty & uncle. Here is my observation, without any actual scientific data to prove it - I think there is a north India versus south India divide here (and I dont mean to start another raging argument about which geographical region is right). Those of us who grew up in the north, have the notion of adding didi, bhabhi, chachi, mami or aunty to be the appropriate & respectful way to address folks. Coming from the north, you just dont call people by their first name. Whereas, my friends and family from the south are quite comfortable with addressing elders by their first names and do not intend any disrespect and neither is it perceived at the recipient's end. I do agree with you that aunty should be reserved for closer circle of friends of your parents. Other than that, please ask the person who you are addressing as to how they would they like to be addressed. Being presumptuous and making the choice for them is what is really disrespectful not either using or not using the term aunty.

Vaishali Bhardwaj Feb 06, 2009 13:47:07
As a 23 year old brought up here in America I feel that I'm coming to a transition period of whether it is ok to call someone aunty or not. As a child, you can get away with calling any adult "Aunty" or "Uncle". I must say, I'm guilty of the fact that sometimes, when you just don't remember someone's name, you can easily get by by saying "Hi Aunty, it's great to see you again!" But, as I become older, I feel the age difference between me and my elders diminish. I agree with a comment above that appending "ji" to the name is a great idea, but I feel a bit disrespectful to elders addressing them by their name, albeit with a "ji" attached. Calling them "Mrs. So and So" is too formal and doesn't really flow naturally when I'm speaking Hindi.
I disagree with the statement "you are the same age as my grown children, but I am meeting you for the first time—I am not your aunty". I feel that the word "aunty" isn't necessarily a right or respect that you earn because you've been a part of the child's life. I believe the problem mainly arises when a person so close to your age calls you aunty, which is clearly not the case when it's someone who is your child's age.
This issue really only bothers me when I find people using the word "aunty" to clearly show that they are much younger than another, when in fact this is usually not the case. But really, if someone is so insecure about their age that they need to resort to these tactics to try to show themselves as younger and/or better, do we really need to be upset about it or just realize that this sort of thing will happen whether or not we fix this specific issue?

aruna gupta toronto canada Feb 06, 2009 07:58:29
I do tend to agree with Shoba...the "aunty/uncle" salutations, typical of us South Asians are indeed for the most part, big time irritants. I'd say suffixing a "ji" to a first name can be equally respectful (and endearing as the case may be)

Roshni Surana Feb 06, 2009 04:03:46
I quite agree Shoba. I grew up being expected to call my parent's friends "aunty" and "uncle" . The more specific familial terminology was reserved for actual family. My children (disrepectfully?) call my friends by their first names, as I do and I think they would address people appropriately, as introduced. Hope so, anyway! I Googled "Indian Aunty" and was quite surprised bythe search result! We are definitely not that!!! Don't call me Aunty indeed!

Ritam Priya Feb 05, 2009 22:58:21
Hi Shobha -

This is an interesting topic and I have been trying to relate to it for quite sometime. When I came to USA, I was in my early twenties and one of the girls who was just three years younger to me called me Aunty (just because I got to know her through her mother). I felt very annoyed and upset whenever I met her. But then I realized it was not her fault. All your parents friends are Uncle or Aunty even if they may be of your age.

So I don't agree hundred percent with your writing. Till we redefine these two words with the age boundries, I feel we should learn to live with it. Also, I would definitely not like a ten or fifteen year old calling me by my first name or \"Hey Dude"\;). I personally feel very uncomfortable calling someone 15-20 years elder to me by their name. It would be great if we could redefine "Aunty" or "Uncle" but till then we should definitely stick to our Indian culture.

Ritam

Isha Ray Feb 05, 2009 16:54:05
Having first been called “Aunty” in this country when I was in my early 30s (and was this by a 3 year old? NO. By a 16 year old!), I totally agree with Shobha's article.

I think laying out the conditions of when we are not your Aunty was absolutely correct. If you have known the child as a child and participated as it were in his/her growing up, that's when Aunty is OK (if you like it). In fact, as Shobha writes, it is a privilege. Otherwise forget it.

Mala Mehrotra Feb 05, 2009 15:48:32
I am sorry, but I completely disagree with the author's position. One time I was put in a very uncomfortable situation when one of my close friend's mother asked me to call her by her first name. I could not do it. I am sorry. The culture that I come from, I find it very disrespectful to call someone who is like my mother - by first name.

And what is this with age? It is your relationship. In our culture for example, when a bride comes to a family, the younger brothers of the bridegroom call the bride Bhabhi - even if the Bhabhi happens to be younger than them in age. Your relationship determines your position in the family and that is the reason you get called what you get called.

Personally I want to be respected for my age, experience and wisdom - and I feel a wealth of emotions for the person who bothers to call me Aunty. I don't take this as their insult to me. In fact I cringe in this culture when my children's friends call me by my first name. So what if I have not seen them in their diapers? I have not rolled marbles with them either. The level of their conversation is very different from the level of conversation I am capable of having with my age/experience-compatible friends. I want and I like that boundary to be drawn. And I am proud of the fact that I am in a position to give them a piece of advice, instead of being slapped and joked around.

And after all what is wrong with growing older? Or being taken to be older? Is it a disease? An insult?

Oh, and BTW, there is a middle path here that has not been mentioned. The author could settle for being called "Didi" perhaps. Would that make her happier? And younger?

Renuka Pullat Feb 05, 2009 13:18:13
Great read...funny and heartfelt! The writing gene definitely runs in the family! I have to add that (during my Bombay years) my mom once chided me for addressing someone as Mrs. so and so. She felt I was not being respectful enough to the lady in question.
So, I guess, you have to play it by ear. But here in the US - your advice is sound - just ask and do not ever claim a stranger as your relative :)

Mani Iyer Feb 05, 2009 10:37:04
Fun article, and great discussion! As a 40+ year old male, I get called "Mani Uncle" by the whole spectrum of fellow Indian-Americans all the way from their teens into their late 20s. I am sure my gray hair has a lot to do with it!

While it does n't really bother me, I would suggest the following "etiquette":

- As long as you are a teen or still in college, your approach of calling an older adult Uncle/Auntie works fine for most of us.

- When you turn 21, you are an adult. It works against you if you continue to call older adults "Uncles" and "Aunties". You may not realize this, but it creates a certain distance between you and the other person. You end up prematurely emphasizing a "generation gap". You lose out on their becoming a good friend or mentor to you. Sure, you will both be polite to each other, but the distance created initially is hard to bridge...

- The critical time when your relationship with another adult gets defined is when you first meet. That's when you should open the conversation, introduce yourself, and wait for the other person to introduce themselves to you. If they do not, then you are still better off asking them how they would like to be addressed...

- As Shobha suggests, if the adult is someone who has been part of your growing up, they will remain an Uncle or Auntie to you for life, as they should...

Thanks for the article, Shobha!

Mani

Manisha Verma Feb 05, 2009 10:29:07
Hi Shobha,
While your article talks about the problem with the term Aunite, it does not provide a viable alternative. I have friends whose grown up children call me auntie, and frankly if they addresses me as Manisha I would be offended. Or if they addressed me as Mrs. Verma, it would sound very impersonal and cold. I have relattives who have married into the American community and when I am addressed as Manisha by their kids, I do not feel the same connection I feel for my friends kids who are not even related to me and who call me Auntie. The Indian culture allows for a certain grace and respect for ageing which is totally missing in the American culture where the need to be young forever surpasses things such as respect and warmth for elders evn if you met them for the first time. I have met my friends parents for the first time and not only addresses them as auntie, but also touched their feet out of respect. It was not awkward at all, but a recognition of the fact that we share a certain warmth and respectful connection coming from the same culture.

Paritosh Mathur Feb 05, 2009 07:47:17
Hello Shobha Auntie,

I got forwarded your article ironically by an auntie of mine, probably because of the fact that, as a 24 year old Indian American, I fit the demographic of trouble makers who are causing this cultural epidemic you speak of.

However, I think that your article was very bitter and I\'d like to tell you that times are changing and so is language. Words mean different things these days. In my opinion it is a privilege that our South Asian community is even teaching our children to use a word like \"auntie\" to someone their elder. Would you rather be called \"Hey dude\" or \"Hey lady\" by an Indian child or someone you just met? I don\'t think so.

I don\'t want to seem blunt, but I felt some insecurities in your writing, maybe the fact that you are getting older and people are recognizing that. Being born in India and grown up here, I feel the term auntie is a term of respect, especially when I use it in a formal setting. If I met one of my Dad\'s family friends for the first time, the term uncle/auntie would be the first thing out of my mouth in order to address them, not because it is a loose solution from a youngster who does not know its meaning, but in total courtesy and consideration for individuals my senior.

I hate to break it to you, but the term auntie is the new formal \"Mrs.\" of today. I feel you need to accept that or build a time machine to relive the glory days.

Varun Agarwal Feb 04, 2009 19:11:17
To Mrs. Srinivasan,
It is not out of laziness that we dont look for consent over the title we give a person. We have been brought up in this cultural atmoshpere where we assume that an indian older woman would like to be shown respect, therefore we call her "aunty." If a person would like to be called something different then they should say so and we will oblige. We simply require a title, which we can use to address the person without creating an awkward situation in which you start the conversation with "what should I call you?" instead of the generic "hi aunty." If you or some others dissent the use of "aunty" on you then it simply requires telling us "No, please just call me Shobha, Mrs.Srinivasan or other titals. Every culture will have a title synonomous to aunty, not simply Indian-Americans. Such as Senora for Spanish speakers, Mrs./Ms. for White Americans.

No Name Feb 04, 2009 14:26:36
In the India I am familiar with, most children called adults "mama" or "chacha" (i.e., uncle) or "mami" (aunt) etc. That extended beyond the immediate or near family members; it covered neighbors, strangers in the train, etc.

What does Shobha recommend we adopt instead of uncle or aunty? Not everyone, everytime can ask the adult around what they'd like to be called. How about suggesting a workable, practical solution?

Vishal Kumar Feb 04, 2009 13:43:43
Mrs. Srinivasan,
If I were to meet you for the first time and say \"What’s up Shoba?\" my mother would certainly be disappointed, likely slap me across the face, and tell me she\'s raised me better than that.
I can understand the frustration you may have when people fewer than 20 years younger than you call you “Aunty”; however, you mention that if \"you are the same age as my grown children, but I am meeting you for the first time—I am not your aunty.\"
I am the same age as your son but would call you “Aunty” simply out of respect, because that is the way I was brought up. Most second-generation Indians that I have encountered, expect me to address their mothers as “Aunty.” I’m not saying you do not have the right to be upset or feel uncomfortable with being called “Aunty,” but try to understand it’s not personal, it’s simply cultural.

Minni Menon Feb 03, 2009 20:13:01
I can so TOTALLY relate to Shoba's article!! Well said, Shoba! When will we ever learn!

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